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10:24:33
10:24:33 From Robert Sterbal Gathertown Tuesday Afternoon Is there a link for that?
10:25:12 From Ward Cunningham https://app.gather.town/app/xPEmtCX0ruyg4IMv/workplayce?spawnToken=SOBEqYoYkRODhiVp
10:25:33 From Robert Best https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Add-ons/WebExtensions/Examples
10:26:31 From Jeff Miller Virtual Lego Open Spaces
10:27:47 From Robert Best Technically zoom also does multiple screenshares too.. but needs enabled by the host if it's not on by default for the room.
10:28:07 From Jeff Miller "Spot Virtual" is a higher-end virtual conference environment that is pretty good with media stream sharing.
10:28:22 From Paul Rodwell there is also element chat - latest beta is now out
10:29:01 From Robert Best For video chat you mean? Still haven't used it much. The home server runs it I guess?
10:29:23 From Paul Rodwell https://www.spotvirtual.com/
10:29:40 From Robert Best This is the open source alternative to gather town if you like to self-host https://workadventu.re/
10:30:42 From Robert Sterbal If you can sell anything
10:31:12 From Robert Best I think gather town started out sort of open source, and they released an early version to public domain, but then went more private.
10:32:15 From Robert Sterbal On another note, what is the smallest server to run fedwiki and how much does it cost a month?
10:32:20 From Jeff Miller When the phone can tell the difference between your writing finger and your scanning finger, you're in good shape. Robert S: I have a DigitalOcean instance which is pretty cheap but probably not the lowest per month. "a box on your bastion net" ?
10:33:14 From Robert Sterbal Is that in the 10s or 100s a month?
10:33:17 From Jeff Miller low tens this is the instance behind pixiereport.com
10:33:32 From Robert Sterbal My birthday present this year is a website
10:33:36 From Jeff Miller :) :)
10:33:50 From viki Reacted to "My birthday presen..." with ❤️
10:33:53 From Jeff Miller Dart + Flutter Dart == underlying language Flutter == Google's mobile browser implementation stack mobile app implementation stack
10:35:20 From Robert Best I feel like wiki on mobile would maybe need to create it own custom context menu to deal with things like our keyboard shortcuts that don't have an equivalent input mechanism on mobile... So a long press, with some wiki specific options in the context menu might do the trick . For things like shift+clicking to append page on end of lineup rather than replace the pages to the right.
10:35:44 From Jeff Miller Digital Ocean ~ $20/mo right now for me.
10:36:10 From Marc Pierson Metaphorum re presentation video: https://vimeo.com/846687058?share=copy
10:36:17 From Paul Rodwell https://github.com/flutter/flutter/wiki/Roadmap maybe getting drag and drop this year
10:36:54 From Robert Sterbal Can you backup and restore the stack?
10:36:57 From Robert Best Replying to "On another note, wha..." I think I had a wiki for a while on digital ocean which was running on their cheapest option which I think was like $5 a month.
10:37:00 From Jeff Miller mini card preview presentations seem to be an idiom looking for ways to be well used.
10:37:14 From Robert Sterbal Reacted to "I think I had a wiki..." with 👍
10:37:26 From Peter Dimitrios Not sure any of the newer flutter builder tools would help - https://flutterflow.io/
10:37:55 From Jeff Miller I haven't been diligent in setting up backup but that seems to be "I should do that some month now."
10:38:49 From Robert Sterbal https://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/powerpoint
10:38:55 From Jeff Miller Brian Marick was interested in getting an updated walkthrough of Federated Wiki so I was thinking that I should learn enough to know what I know better and what I know less well.
10:40:47 From Jeff Miller He said: "Too busy right now, maybe in a couple weeks." I said: "Okay, that will give me a chance to get better prepared."
10:43:36
10:43:36 From Jeff Miller "the DOOM rendering engine" it's very classic John hmmm....
10:44:04 From Robert Sterbal https://tim.blog/2023/07/12/john-romero/
10:44:12 From Marc Pierson I misremembered. Some slides are one word, others are more. I may have removed everything but the titles.
10:44:25 From Peter Dimitrios John Carmack, Tim Hall, John Romero wrote original Doom
10:44:31 From Paul Rodwell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_(franchise)
10:44:31 From Jeff Miller John Carmack is the one who is most quoted "originally developed for NeXT computers" procdoom is an interesting joke on the Doom engine
10:45:32 From Paul Rodwell https://psdoom.sourceforge.net/
10:45:38 From Jeff Miller yes!
10:46:12 From Robert Sterbal It hadn’t been discovered for nine years since the introduction of the PC until John Carmack figured out how to get pixel smooth scrolling horizontally on a PC and it looked like a Nintendo.
10:46:34 From Jeff Miller https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_engine
10:47:08 From Robert Sterbal John Romero: Yeah, the name for DOOM came from John Carmack. He was watching Tom Cruise’s The Color of Money movie and when he was watching it and he saw that the guy walk up to Tom Cruise, he’s got his cue stick inside of this case on his lap. And the guy’s like, “What’s in there?” And Tom Cruise looks down at it and looks up at the guy and goes, “It’s doom.” He was like, “Wow, that’s a really great name.” We hadn’t heard of a game called DOOM before. So he said, “How about DOOM?” And I was like, “That is awesome. Yeah.”
10:47:39 From Paul Rodwell wasm32 port of doom - https://diekmann.github.io/wasm-fizzbuzz/doom/
10:47:54 From Jeff Miller if you go around an object you only see the front
10:49:34 From Jeff Miller the uncanny valley of rendering -- too real is too messy?
10:50:20 From Marc Pierson https://www.bu.edu/fammed/projectred/
10:52:05 From Jeff Miller that reminds me a little of the automated exam voice in The Andromeda Strain
10:52:21 From Robert Best That's the nice thing about things like gathertown rather than these other high fidelity, VR headset metaverse options.. The 2d interface requires much less resources, and so you can use it to meet using mobile phones too.
10:53:12 From Jeff Miller a little more cold and clinical in its instructions than the Project Red chatbot
10:54:21 From Paul Rodwell https://www.michaelcrichton.com/works/the-andromeda-strain/
10:55:33 From Jeff Miller humans who don't actually read to the end of the page (calling myself out) (also calling out my previous M.D.)
10:56:17 From Paul Rodwell or they have robots that give you two options and you need the third one
10:56:24 From Jeff Miller right I used to work for the Microsoft chatbot division and I could see the win-win value of having a chatbot as contextual assistant or taking the easy questions
10:59:10
10:59:10 From Jeff Miller I bet streaming is a challenge "Buffering..."
11:00:27 From Jeff Miller my previous doctor at Swedish was an old-fashioned one who took time (and I think he was pushed out into semi-retirement)
11:02:09 From Robert Sterbal I wonder if they could ask the questions to narrow the problem down
11:02:23 From Jeff Miller yes, it's a challenge crafting your intake tree
11:02:48 From Robert Sterbal All the live time to the wrong person is considered wasted
11:02:49 From Jeff Miller it's easier if the chatbot already has context, like "Your flight was delayed, what do you want to do?" about ten questions already answered. that's sort of perfect
11:03:48 From Robert Sterbal Your flight was delayed, I'm sending you to the flight delay resolution specialist. Here is your case number in case you get disconnected
11:04:01 From Jeff Miller so the natural language recognition mechanism and matching to support scenarios is the hope to make the intake tree short yep, that's exactly the sort of context where a chatbot is The Right Tool
11:04:39 From Robert Sterbal and make the override easy
11:04:43 From Jeff Miller it's "help!" where it's awkward Twitter archive links to images and external sites are awkward
11:05:42 From Robert Sterbal my facebook archive: 18.6 GB (20,004,391,897 bytes
11:06:01 From Robert Best Would be fun if wiki could explore Google's "takeout" archive files... From like google+ etc.
11:06:01 From Jeff Miller text to speech! :)
11:06:26 From Robert Sterbal (that was the compressed file)
11:06:47 From Jeff Miller (that's a lot of image patchworks?)
11:07:58 From Paul Rodwell http://photos.ward.dojo.fed.wiki/photo-rotator.html
11:07:59 From Jeff Miller Looking at Marc's slide deck for "Between". Slide 5 is BETWEEN * Where no one is paid to care or serve
11:09:27 From Jeff Miller the "Activated Patient" slide stands out
11:10:54 From Jeff Miller That's a nice discovery from the highlighting of photos from the same page.
11:13:19 From Jeff Miller (I just opened up FedWiki in the Mozilla Firefox Reader View and it looks pretty good)
11:15:10 From Jeff Miller fallback sourcing for images is resilient and interesting
11:15:25 From Paul Rodwell http://goals.pod.rodwell.me/how-image-plugin-finds-images.html
11:15:51 From Jeff Miller OpenGraph previews also say something about the web as cacheable small independent pieces. Paul: thank you! I may fork that page to add to my wiki walkthrough preparation
11:17:50 From Paul Rodwell an interesting curiosity - https://css-tricks.com/creating-a-3d-cube-image-gallery/
11:28:00
11:28:00 From Jeff Miller (laughing at the big muffler) not quite Truck Nutz In Tucson some folks will lift their truck body way high above their wheels.
11:29:20 From Jeff Miller fun pictures of boring things there used to be a dead tree trimmed like a hand coming out of the ground on my block
11:30:31 From Jeff Miller ✋<- the tree looked like this
11:31:35 From Jeff Miller ranked by duck quotient
11:32:05 From Ward Cunningham http://photos.ward.dojo.fed.wiki/view/july-16th-photos
11:32:52 From Jeff Miller Seattle duck pond near Robert Eagle Staff school. https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6944764,-122.3380524,154m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu
11:34:23 From Jeff Miller featuring a weeping willow. https://www.google.com/maps/@47.6941399,-122.3380662,3a,75y,8.91h,80.42t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sI8v1w9WSo3OSTkjyfuXnGQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
11:36:06 From Jeff Miller I suppose the Camera Obscura led to a lot of careful examination of angles and vanishing points.
11:37:14 From Robert Sterbal The best examples of perspective are the chalk art shows
11:37:25 From Jeff Miller add 👍 "choose what needs to show up in the preview" for Mastodon
11:38:08 From Robert Sterbal https://crystalbridges.org/families/chalk-festival/
11:38:42 From Jeff Miller I had to fight the Twitter preview mechanism in order to get PixieReport looking reasonable.
11:38:53 From Robert Sterbal https://images.crystalbridges.org/uploads/2020/12/LizaFishbone.jpg?fit=1024%2C1024
11:39:07 From Jeff Miller (padding a vertical image with transparent flanks to make it landscape format)
11:40:28 From Paul Rodwell or use a tilt and shift lens - something like https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-TS-E-45mm-f-2.8-Tilt-Shift-Lens-Review.aspx
11:40:35 From Robert Sterbal A really good buildings website: https://1940s.nyc/map/photo/nynyma_rec0040_1_00764_0073#15.2/40.740066/-73.994717
11:40:41 From Jeff Miller Robert S: Waterfall! (or I suppose black hole gravity?) "Chalk Riot" ?
11:41:09 From Robert Sterbal Reacted to "Robert S: Waterfall!..." with 👍
11:41:58 From Jeff Miller here's the Chalk Riot portfolio for perspective on pavement: http://www.chalkriotart.com/pavementart ("anamorphic" being the keyword) "sign your work!" :)
11:42:38 From Paul Rodwell https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-66166754
11:43:36 From Marc Pierson https://isabellacuevaspierson.com/video-essay On painting
11:46:26
11:46:26 From Jeff Miller how does it work and why he wants to connect us with the Ostrom Workshop "packet radio" routing?
11:47:36 From Jeff Miller for the chat context on "how..." and "Ostrom": Brian Marick.
11:47:41 From Marc Pierson Jeff, what are you saying about the Ostrom Workshop
11:47:51 From Jeff Miller Brian Marick wants to work with development teams who are interested in collective governance and so he sent out a call for interested teams who would like to do this.
11:48:41 From Marc Pierson Can you show that to me?
11:48:56 From Jeff Miller and I told Brian that we were frequently talking about Ostrom's governance work looking at his Mastodon posts on his podcast, since it came from that work
11:49:59 From Marc Pierson https://marc.relocalizecreativity.net/view/search-for-ostrom
11:50:04 From Jeff Miller his podcast episode: https://podcast.oddly-influenced.dev/episodes/governing-the-commons-part-3-man-63-seeks-software-teams-any-age-object-matchmaking
11:50:13 From Marc Pierson thanks
11:50:24 From Jeff Miller "I'm looking for teams who want to collaborate with Indiana University's Ostrom Workshop, and I intend to provide financing." so: cooperative management of a software based collective is what Brian is interested in and he (and I!) were surprised that he didn't have quick uptake
11:52:02 From Jeff Miller that's pretty cool, routing by zip code within the last digit is "within radio range" unforgiving external lighting?
11:53:27 From Jeff Miller (Viki's picture of a newsprint / newspaper image framed behind plexiglas which is hard to photograph)
11:53:52 From viki http://studio.viki.wiki/view/welcome-visitors
11:54:03 From Jeff Miller I hope that compressed gas cylinder is chained upright.
11:56:07 From Jeff Miller seeing like a screen
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11:59:55 From Jeff Miller the longer the wavelength of light, the further you see into an object's surface?
12:00:16 From Marc Pierson Gotta run.
12:01:26 From Jeff Miller https://social.oddly-influenced.dev/@marick/110023469373070735 Marc: I'll also post in Matrix